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		<title>Comment on Plot holes in Salt by david.tughan</title>
		<link>http://tughan.ca/plot-holes-in-salt/comment-page-1/#comment-699</link>
		<dc:creator>david.tughan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 16:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I think it&#039;s reasonable to argue that requiring an alternate ending on the DVD release to spell out things that weren&#039;t in the theatre release (the only one I saw) could justifiably be described as a problem, without having to get insulting about people requiring spoon-feeding. This is especially the case when you yourself didn&#039;t realize this stuff until seeing the DVD-only ending.

Hopefully you were being ironical with the &quot;Hay Guise&quot; thing, because otherwise that&#039;s pretty funny all on its own.

And while we&#039;re at it, I think we&#039;ve pretty much made it through to the &quot;OK, not plot holes&quot; stage in previous comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think it&#8217;s reasonable to argue that requiring an alternate ending on the DVD release to spell out things that weren&#8217;t in the theatre release (the only one I saw) could justifiably be described as a problem, without having to get insulting about people requiring spoon-feeding. This is especially the case when you yourself didn&#8217;t realize this stuff until seeing the DVD-only ending.</p>
<p>Hopefully you were being ironical with the &#8220;Hay Guise&#8221; thing, because otherwise that&#8217;s pretty funny all on its own.</p>
<p>And while we&#8217;re at it, I think we&#8217;ve pretty much made it through to the &#8220;OK, not plot holes&#8221; stage in previous comments.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Plot holes in Salt by Azone 7</title>
		<link>http://tughan.ca/plot-holes-in-salt/comment-page-1/#comment-646</link>
		<dc:creator>Azone 7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually there are no plot holes...  Winters says to Salt when they are talking through the glass under the White house bomb shelter, that he had to twist Orlov&#039;s arm to get him to come into the CIA and give up Salt so he could have a patsy to blame it on.  So saying that the way the movie kicked with a plot hole or inconceivable is ridiculous when it&#039;s explained.  Orlov&#039;s intention was not to &quot;notify&quot; Salt that the time is now, no, he was being forced/coerced to do it by Winters.

As for the President clearing her name; I had the same qualm but then when the DVD came out with the alternate ending it made more sense.  It is clear that the president had died when Peabody and Salt agreed that no one else could clear her name.  Although jumbled, Salt mentioned that Winters was dead and nothing of the president was underplayed.

From their conversation in the helicopter at the end, it is very clear that the President is either dead or incapable or recollecting what happened.  It is sad to me because movies these days need to have so much spelled out and nothing figured out by the audience.  You can call it a plot hole if you want, but the evidence that the President is dead is on the walls, you just have to read it.  I don&#039;t want to see the helocopter pilot turn around and say, &quot;HAY GUISE, IM FLYING A CHOPPAR!!&quot;.

It&#039;s funny because I didn&#039;t even realize the &quot;writing on the walls&quot; about the President until I read/saw the alternate ending.  By all means am I a hypocrite and fall into this era where almost everything needs to be explained to forego &quot;plot holes&quot;.  However, sometimes hindsight can bring us all back to enriching films that make you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually there are no plot holes&#8230;  Winters says to Salt when they are talking through the glass under the White house bomb shelter, that he had to twist Orlov&#8217;s arm to get him to come into the CIA and give up Salt so he could have a patsy to blame it on.  So saying that the way the movie kicked with a plot hole or inconceivable is ridiculous when it&#8217;s explained.  Orlov&#8217;s intention was not to &#8220;notify&#8221; Salt that the time is now, no, he was being forced/coerced to do it by Winters.</p>
<p>As for the President clearing her name; I had the same qualm but then when the DVD came out with the alternate ending it made more sense.  It is clear that the president had died when Peabody and Salt agreed that no one else could clear her name.  Although jumbled, Salt mentioned that Winters was dead and nothing of the president was underplayed.</p>
<p>From their conversation in the helicopter at the end, it is very clear that the President is either dead or incapable or recollecting what happened.  It is sad to me because movies these days need to have so much spelled out and nothing figured out by the audience.  You can call it a plot hole if you want, but the evidence that the President is dead is on the walls, you just have to read it.  I don&#8217;t want to see the helocopter pilot turn around and say, &#8220;HAY GUISE, IM FLYING A CHOPPAR!!&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny because I didn&#8217;t even realize the &#8220;writing on the walls&#8221; about the President until I read/saw the alternate ending.  By all means am I a hypocrite and fall into this era where almost everything needs to be explained to forego &#8220;plot holes&#8221;.  However, sometimes hindsight can bring us all back to enriching films that make you think.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Same old same old by Jasmine</title>
		<link>http://tughan.ca/same-old-same-old/comment-page-1/#comment-591</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasmine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it was season 2! And you can&#039;t just have watched Firefly, you have to love it........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was season 2! And you can&#8217;t just have watched Firefly, you have to love it&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Same old same old by david.tughan</title>
		<link>http://tughan.ca/same-old-same-old/comment-page-1/#comment-589</link>
		<dc:creator>david.tughan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I&#039;ve seen Firefly. And I like &lt;em&gt;Castle&lt;/em&gt; fine ... it has had a few moments of brilliance (Fillion in his &quot;space cowboy&quot; Halloween costume pops to mind - what was that, season 1 or 2?). Actually, I&#039;m still watching &lt;em&gt;The Mentalist&lt;/em&gt; too ... and &lt;em&gt;Southland&lt;/em&gt;. Maybe I just need to get off my butt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I&#8217;ve seen Firefly. And I like <em>Castle</em> fine &#8230; it has had a few moments of brilliance (Fillion in his &#8220;space cowboy&#8221; Halloween costume pops to mind &#8211; what was that, season 1 or 2?). Actually, I&#8217;m still watching <em>The Mentalist</em> too &#8230; and <em>Southland</em>. Maybe I just need to get off my butt!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Same old same old by Jasmine</title>
		<link>http://tughan.ca/same-old-same-old/comment-page-1/#comment-587</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasmine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty confident you would enjoy Castle more if you watched Firefly first...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty confident you would enjoy Castle more if you watched Firefly first&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Plot holes in Salt by Abby</title>
		<link>http://tughan.ca/plot-holes-in-salt/comment-page-1/#comment-582</link>
		<dc:creator>Abby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 03:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK I just watched the directors cut ON Demand -- the final voiceover while she&#039;s running through the woods of a newscast saying the president was laying a wreath at the crash site of his parents and sister&#039;s plane in russia--- are they trying to hint that she is actually the presidents sister?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK I just watched the directors cut ON Demand &#8212; the final voiceover while she&#8217;s running through the woods of a newscast saying the president was laying a wreath at the crash site of his parents and sister&#8217;s plane in russia&#8212; are they trying to hint that she is actually the presidents sister?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Plot holes in Salt by Martin Ellis</title>
		<link>http://tughan.ca/plot-holes-in-salt/comment-page-1/#comment-577</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 15:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salt goes to the whitehouse to prevent the president being killed, as she hates what the Russians have done to her and her husband. She is told by Orlov that the president will be killed, so she follows the plan through so she can try to prevent it happening. Up until she gets there, she doesn&#039;t know Winter is a spy, but it&#039;s obvious once she gets there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salt goes to the whitehouse to prevent the president being killed, as she hates what the Russians have done to her and her husband. She is told by Orlov that the president will be killed, so she follows the plan through so she can try to prevent it happening. Up until she gets there, she doesn&#8217;t know Winter is a spy, but it&#8217;s obvious once she gets there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Plot holes in Salt by kay</title>
		<link>http://tughan.ca/plot-holes-in-salt/comment-page-1/#comment-576</link>
		<dc:creator>kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 00:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does Orlov get into a facility like that without being scanned, especially after identifying himself?  The shoe knife would have been picked up easily.  Someone will probably suggest that it might have been hard plastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does Orlov get into a facility like that without being scanned, especially after identifying himself?  The shoe knife would have been picked up easily.  Someone will probably suggest that it might have been hard plastic.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Plot holes in Salt by KL</title>
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		<dc:creator>KL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 19:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Gil, If you think about it logically, all Salt needed to do was to kill her Russian spy friend who
worked for NATO, thus preventing him from getting to the Whitehouse and thus foiling the whole plot.

.......but of course if that happened you wouldn&#039;t have got to the climatic Nuclear countdown scene!

The other plot hole that I see is that Orlov was high ranking spy who had knowledge of who the other spies were and what the Russians were planning.
Now firstly would such a high ranking spy with all that he knew risk capture or even revealing his identity by walking into the CIA interrogation room.........I think NOT!
Secondly.......surely Salt would have tried to get information out of Orlov rather than kill him outright?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Gil, If you think about it logically, all Salt needed to do was to kill her Russian spy friend who<br />
worked for NATO, thus preventing him from getting to the Whitehouse and thus foiling the whole plot.</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;.but of course if that happened you wouldn&#8217;t have got to the climatic Nuclear countdown scene!</p>
<p>The other plot hole that I see is that Orlov was high ranking spy who had knowledge of who the other spies were and what the Russians were planning.<br />
Now firstly would such a high ranking spy with all that he knew risk capture or even revealing his identity by walking into the CIA interrogation room&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;I think NOT!<br />
Secondly&#8230;&#8230;.surely Salt would have tried to get information out of Orlov rather than kill him outright?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Plot holes in Salt by Gil Meriken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gil Meriken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 08:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome rundown, thanks!

But what was she planning to do in the White House exactly? Tell the president the purpose of the whole scheme? She didn&#039;t know there would be other sleepers, right? Or was that her intent, to make sure nothing bad happened?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome rundown, thanks!</p>
<p>But what was she planning to do in the White House exactly? Tell the president the purpose of the whole scheme? She didn&#8217;t know there would be other sleepers, right? Or was that her intent, to make sure nothing bad happened?</p>
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